This is a sign I've never seen before. It's in Hull, on the level crossing on Spring Bank West, five minutes' trundle from Hull City's last remaining premiership matches at the KC Stadium.
Evidently inspired by the banner of this very blog, the council have created a 'slippery for bikes' sign.
Has anyone seen any other examples of this? It doesn't appear on direct.gov.uk's list of official Highway Code warning signs.
Perhaps they could use the sign in Edinburgh, where cyclists have fallen foul of the newly installed tramlines in Princes St.
Sheffield was notorious when the trams started there - now I think cyclists have adapted.
ReplyDeleteIs this sign on a public highway? On private roads you can do what you want sign-wise, but on the highway councils are supposed to follow that DafT list. Many don't, and went ahead with No Entry Except Cyclists signs anyway, while Cambridge waited timorously until it was granted permission to use them on a trial basis.
Yes, it's definitely a public highway. If you follow the 'Hull' link in the post, you get Google Street View, in which you can just make out the sign, and see the crossing in all its grandeur.
ReplyDeleteThe road runs alongside Spring Bank Cemetery, where Philip Larkin and John Betjeman had a rather contrived conversation about death in 1964 for a BBC Monitor programme (you can watch it on YouTube). Larkin was a real cyclist, of course.
And it is, of course, accompanied by the most dispiriting pair of words in the traffic sign-writer's lexicon, "cyclists dismount".
ReplyDeleteUntil I see a sign with "driver, get out and walk" I will continue to shake my head and tutt whenever I this phrase …
Larkin is also the only great British poet to refer to cycle-clips in a poem.
ReplyDelete"Hatless, I take off / My cycle-clips in awkward reverence." (Churchgoing)
But then there's not much in the way of cycling poetry out there, is there?
Which is odd, bearing in mind the sensuous pleasures of cycling and the fresh perspectives it brings.
The same triangular sign can be seen on tram routes in Nottingham, with a rectangular plate "Tram tracks" beneath. But no "Cyclists dismount" plate.
ReplyDeleteExample (on Weekday Cross/Middle Hill) here.
Morning Freewheeler,
ReplyDeletehave you read anything by Martin Newell? He produced a book of poetry about cycling in Essex called Spoke'n Word.
Try the below as a taster...
Epic Essex, best for bike-rides
Liberally laced with lanes
Pubs to punctuate the pedalling
Flower-baskets hung on chains
Coastal Essex - secret rivers
Heron-haunted waterland
Where the silver light in autumn
Lingers for a saraband
On the shingle and the sand.
BillG
In 2004, we designed and erected two of these sign in Cambridge where there was a particular problem:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.camcycle.org.uk/images/slippery.jpg
The County Council sent out someone specially to remove them as they were "illegal". They seemed much more concerned about the nature of the sign than addressing the problem, though in the end it did result on a non slip surface being applied to the problem area.
Let's try that again, this time with a clickable link: this sign.
ReplyDeleteThe Google car went both ways down that road in Hull. Here's a closer view of the sign Rob spotted.
ReplyDeleteWierd - I'd just seen that very sign in Nottingham on Monday.
ReplyDeleteDifferent signs - one's on a two-lane carriageway, one on a three-lane. Oddly enough there's a pair of white vans in each photo - do they drive nothing else in Hull?
ReplyDeleteThe sign in Nigel's link is on the western side of the crossing - my snap (and Google Street View link) is of the eastern side.
ReplyDeleteLarkin was quite a keen cyclist when he arrived in Hull in 1955 ("nice and flat for cycling", he noted in one of his letters) and spent his weekends exploring the villages. But in 1964 he finally gave in and took driving lessons and bought a car. He didn't care much for motors though: he thought they were all "ugly" and said he was "terrified of driving".
Does anyone else think that the bike in the sign has just executed a seriously impressive skid?
ReplyDeleteHe seems to have locked up both wheels, been traveling sideways and then spun round to finish.
I wish I had that much bike control.
Either than or they have nicked the car skidmarks off the slippery road sign ;-)
@Chris - Yes, dispiriting, but advisory. You can happily ignore it, even if you have to explain in words of one syllable to non-cyclists (including the police) what the Highway Code says about rectangular blue signs with a white border.
ReplyDeleteNottingham have a few; Sheffield and Manchester probably have them; the DfT can authorise signs like this—but most importantly: it's pretty simple to understand. As for the dismount sign, …I'll refrain from swearing here.
ReplyDelete> You can happily ignore it, [...] rectangular blue signs with a white border.
ReplyDeleteMy understanding is that "Cyclists Dismount" can be ignored because there is no law attached to the sign. So no rules about it's placement or use, nor any law that is broken if you cycle past it - unless it is incorrectly used where cycling is not allowed.